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Subject - Eastserve ignores the Community yet again

ReplyPosted : (Thursday 11th October 2007 ) By - Technoboy (Unregistered User) Hi Everyone
Back for one last rant
This has got to be an all time low for the East Manchester Community, Sean McGonigle should be sacked for letting a thriving community service called Eastserve reach new low depths. The community has been totally ignored, Eastserve have used that word "Community" to great effect when needing money or some going for some award. They will argue and come up with a answer to my comments, but no one will doubt what I say if you look back and remember what it used to be like. From about 2003 Eastserve has steadily gone downhill regarding community involvement, poor management being the main cause, false promises and a network in need of a major overhaul.
I am fed up of hearing how Eastserve engage with the community, most of what is spoken about Eastserve is from the glory days (pre 2004). Many users will have been around 6 years ago, can you honestly say I am wrong, it has now gone from bad to worse. I cant blame MCIN, they did not make the decision to use the current Website CMS, if Eastserve wanted a new look or design why did they not ask the community for help. Eastserve has now become a typical rundown council service and in need of major regeneration, Sean should not have let it get in this state. The original concept has now all but gone, maybe it is also time for Eastserve to go, there are others who could take their place.
Things could have been so different had we had people with vision and a real commitment to involve the community, and to see it through. Maybe if Eastserve had concentrated on one thing, then we would not be so annoyed at being ignored. Identity was always a problem for Eastserve, I think Eastserve should have been a broadband provider only, then the word community need not be used and we would not be where we are today.
One last word about regeneration, I have seen the new builds in East Manchester, and I do not like them. Our climate is not best suited to wood design. Many houses being built now are a mixture of wood, metal and brick, and looking around most are already looking ugly and cheap. I remember fort ardwick, fort beswick and builds of that time, and I can see the current builds looking just as terrible in 10 years time. And who do we blame for this as well, Sean McGonigle, the principal regeneration officer for East Manchester. And dont even get me started on the false crime figures, and the none reporting of crime in East manchester. We in the real world see crime everyday, some of it very serious, shootings, stabbings, muggings, etc, why is the media not aware of it, could it be because we are in an regeneration area. If a gunshot is heard in mosside it makes national TV, if someone is shot or stabbed in east manchester it falls on deaf ears. Why is there a media reporting clamp down, come on Ace help me out.
Bye Everyone
Technoboy

ReplyReply Posted: (Friday 12th October 2007 ) By - YetAnotherMoaner (Unregistered User)

Eastserve ignores the Community yet again

"I cant blame MCIN, they did not make the decision to use the current Website CMS"
Any numpty with a little website experience can see that MCIN use the same layout for all their sites - the only thing that changes are the logo's and colour schemes

ReplyReply Posted: (Friday 12th October 2007 ) By - insignificant (Unregistered User)

Eastserve ignores the Community yet again

well i can agree with the majority of what you have wrote. especially the part of if there is a shooting in moss side, it makes national tv but here in M11 we're having to lock ourselves in our homes after dark just in case we might be classed as looking at someone the wrong way to be targeted, be it a mugging (plenty of them been kept silent over the last few months in clayton alone!!)and as for drive by shootings, far too many have taken place for us longterm residents to attempt to log them anymore, let alone report them and willing to make a statement!! i've lost count of how many people have been beaten just for looking in the wrong direction!! i am shocked at what things go on in this "regenerated" community that even the police seem to be continually turning a blind eye to! it isn't on! but when i try to complain that i'm paying a hell of a lot of council tax for many services that i don't feel my community are equally recieving! the only thing i can say positive about my council tax fees are the BINMEN are actually very efficient! I can't even say i have a good relationship with my neighbours anymore either, as i no longer know who they are - the ones i've had for the last 22 years have had to sell up and move on and their homes are now rented out to all kinds!! i get very little rest with some of their goings on too! its not on but we don't seem to matter anymore - it feels like because i've been here for donkeys years, i'm too old fashioned and OUTDATED for this area anymore and the only regeneration i can see causes me much inconvenience, frustration and the "community" is now just a convenient word that means a group of people that have a house in an area - it no longer means a group of people who try to make the best out of everyday life for all folks LIVING in the same area and look out for and care about each other and where they live - GREED IS THE ONLY THING THAT THIS "community" has GAINED and its not down to THIS website, its just THIS WEBSITE was once the only voice some of us olduns had!

ReplyReply Posted: (Saturday 13th October 2007 ) (Anonymous Posting)

Eastserve ignores the Community yet again

well well it seems yet again someone else doesn't seem happy with our area being ignored!
saddest thing is who do we try to highlight it to? no-one who can make any difference will want to be involved in trying to stop our community falling downhill again. give it another 25 years or so and some do-gooder will come in and have a brilliant idea of "hey, i know, lets regenerate this rundown community that once had everything and the big nobs let it be abused and exploited till the death" I wonder if they'll be any original residents still here by that time that might be able to say "hang on we've been there and done that before!! why should i bother!!" I don't envy the government - they might well of tried to do a lot of good things but seems like everyone has took too much of this good community and tried to spread it far to far so theres not even much left to do anymore good with! community should be reworded to complacency!

ReplyReply Posted: (Tuesday 6th November 2007 ) By - Ace (Unregistered User)

Eastserve ignores the Community yet again

Glad to see that technoboy is still voicing his opinion as a longterm resident of east manchester who really cares about the area and tells people the truth like myself we have always cared about the community and the way they have been treated,Even when some of those residents have called us moaners/numpties? but these people who call us names are the ones who have benefitted as a result of the so called moaning we have done over the years.
Im in full agreement of what technoboy says the developers are being allowed to build slums of the future Cheap wood and metal the only problem is those slums wont take a hundred years to look terrible they look terrible after a couple of years .all you have to do is look at the ones near asda they look glum and worse than the old streets of terraces ever did.The so called regenerated homes/appartments are having damp and other problems already just read about the new award winning homes in new islington (ancoats)they suffered with black mould/damp/and rain pouring in ? and these homes are only a year old??what chance have these houses.They are building appartments by the thousands we have very few "Family homes being built" appartments make more money for the greedy developers "More bucks" for the yard of land .

ReplyReply Posted: (Wednesday 7th November 2007 )
By - Lukep (Unregistered User)

Eastserve ignores the Community yet again

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